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GTalk can't sign-in (Google hosted email)

Postby BigBlueBall.com on Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:53 pm

Google is beta testing hosted email: https://www.google.com/hosted
This gives you all the features and functionality of Gmail, including Google Talk, but using your own domain.

I've got this setup for bigblueball.com, and Google Talk and Google Chat work great, but I can't login to Gtalk via Meebo (with my @bigblueball.com account).

Something to add to the wish list? :?
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Postby jian on Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:25 pm

that is a peculiar edge case. We've had success with email addresses from other domains on other jabber servers but we haven't seen google hosted domains yet.

We don't have hosted gmail accounts here so you might be able to help us debug here.

If you wouldn't mind, I'd suggest trying out some other jabber clients to log in (other than Google Talk or Google Chat) and let us know of its success. I'm just thinking that gmail might have some special stuff setup.

thanks for the find!

jian :o
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Postby cloudhunter on Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:36 pm

Well this maybe a little strange... but have you tried your address followed by @gmail.com ?
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also have hosted domain

Postby kiltbear on Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:01 am

I have the same problem, won't login with my email address xx@x3.com.

I think the problem may be that meebo looks at the username/address, and since it is not an adress with @gmail.com, it trys to login to some other jabber federated server??? Instead of having a combined jabber/gtalk choice for a server, if you had a separate choice just for GTalk, then you would know to sign the hosted accounts into talk.google.com instead of some other jabber server.

Hopefully I'm making sense, since I am not really sure how the whole jabber federation works.
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Postby meebomark on Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:27 am

I think kiltbear might be on to something.

Some Jabber clients allow the user to specify a different "connect" server than the hostname which is a part of your username. For example, GTalk accounts are @gmail.com, but they actually connect to talk.google.com.

For the Google Hosted email account xx@x3.com, it's possible that Meebo is trying to connect to a Jabber server on x3.com when it should try to connect to talk.google.com.

I guess we would need to add a "Connect Server" option. Or we could separate the Jabber and GTalk login boxes. Or we could check to see if the DNS for x3.com has an SRV record that points to the Jabber server on talk.google.com, but then all Google Hosted domains would need to configure an SRV record.
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Other jabber clients work with Gmail for Domains

Postby coherent on Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:41 am

Just fuel for the fire,

Using GAIM and Exodus I can connect using my Google hosted domain account with talk.google.com as the connect host.

there way be an issue with ports? but I have no way to test that with any certainty from my location.

I would suggest an expansion of the jabber dialogue to include a connect host, or segregate the Gtalk from jabber.

Bloody brilliant product you have here guys and girls, I'd love to be able to use it within my domain!
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Postby binarymelon on Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:58 am

coherent, what are your settings to make it work with your hosted account in GAIM. I am having a large amount of difficulty in GAIM 2.0 beta3
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yes, please implement Jabber / SRV support!

Postby jfxd on Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:39 pm

meebomark wrote:Or we could check to see if the DNS for x3.com has an SRV record that points to the Jabber server on talk.google.com, but then all Google Hosted domains would need to configure an SRV record.


I'd really like to see this.

My company runs our own jabber server but we use SRV records to map the service to a different host while still maintaining our root domain as part of the user JID..
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Ditto

Postby Elric on Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:12 pm

Having the same problem
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Postby Guest on Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:44 pm

Got mine fixed.
talk.google.com is the server and the 5223 port etc. BUT I had to make sure my location said iChat (not sure if that will work in Meebo, but it works for iChat).
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same prob

Postby mj_1970 on Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:30 pm

I tried user@mydomain.com@talk.google.com and user%mydomain.com@talk.google.com and cound not connect either time. I also tried user%mydomain.com@gmail.com and user@mydomain.com@gmail.com, still with no luck.
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Postby meebomark on Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:00 pm

FYI meebo checks the DNS SRV records now. So if the admin of your Google Hosted email adds an SRV record on your domain that points to talk.google.com, then you should be able to enter "myname@example.com" and it would work.
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SRV record

Postby mj_1970 on Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:32 am

Our current DNS host does not give us the option of configuring a SRV record. I wonder if it would be feasable to add a checkbox or something to the config screen to let it know that your server is to be talk.google.com, in case that SRV record does not exist?

Eventually we intend to host our own DNS, and at that time we will configure the SRV record. Until then we're stuck.
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Postby meebomark on Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:54 am

We hope to do something like that in future, but we try very very hard to keep meebo extremely simple. And that's good for most people, but unfortunately it hurts anyone who needs to specify the Jabber connect server. I'm sure we'll figure something out eventually, though.
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after further research

Postby mj_1970 on Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:59 am

I've been looking into it since that last post, and I think it actually MAY be possible for us to create that record. Unfortunatley, I'm not the guy who controls the DNS records, so I'll have to wait for him to set up the record. The service type needs to be xmpp-server, correct? And the target would be, like you said, talk.google.com.
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